How to solve "DEATH TO AMERICA"

[siiix]

They have tunnel vision and can't see the whole picture.It's to easy to blame one nation for the worlds problems. Instead of bitching about the US why don't you get involved and help change the world and make it a safe and better world than it is today... bla bla bla ....

mixing in parts of reality in to Nazi propaganda wont make the entire text true, its just makes it appear that way, saying thing like “were over populated…” has nothing to do with the methods you recommend solving those problems

the tunnel vision is yours
the rest of the world do not have a god complex like we do
we (U.S.) have NO RIGHT policing the planet as we just as little sh't heads like every other nation on this planet

plus by using aggression, hate and nationalism all we archive is making things worse and eventually get our country in a situation where every one avoids us as trade partners like the pest, we already losing year by year our position category by category
soon enough  the only thing we be #1 how military power, and with less money that wont last forever, if we continue like now a 2-3 decades and we history as superpower

that’s for your tunnel vision my friend, being a Nazi never solved a problem on long term, its temporary solution that till now every time ended up in disaster

How to solve "DEATH TO AMERICA"?
nothing easier that this,
-we have to stop behaving like Nazis and become a part of the international community, not like what we try to do now trying to be in control of every one else
it would help to get respect back:
- if we restore democracy and justice in our country, currently it in on a lever like a 3rd world country
-if we don’t have laws where we have to keep millions of people in jails and work camps
-if we stop finding new things to discriminate against (as race, and color are illegal)

no one hates “America” for its money anymore, that position we long lost, they hate us because we tell them how to live, and bully them around, we manipulate things in parts of the word where we should do like every other nation NOTHING

its not our business
how would we like if the horrible things that go on in our country someone would come and “FIX”

PLEASE reality check !
and NO I’m not a socialist/communist/liberal, in fact it will be hard to find someone that believes in capitalism more then me, but there is a big difference between real capitalism or a fascists regime or even just imperialism

current politics is in the long term disastrous for business, our economy and in general for the entire human kind as well

[gorg]

Good post!!!

You remember the former italians? The Romans? They where the lagest military advanced people of there Time and influenced all of the former known world. They spend every tribe what they called civilisation, the "pax romana" (=Roman Peace).

Well, here in europe people speak about the "pax americana" (=American Peace) that the US try to spend every Tribe of our world... if they want it or not...

People of America, Think about what happens to the Romans.... They were overrun by Barbars... don´t make the same mistakes... clean in your own house and let the tribes live like they want to live.

My penny....

[Odis]

Man, just browsing around the forums looking for new posts and I find a political thread  . Clicking on the newest one, I read it, and the next and finally the third before I think, Man, I like this guy! He knows what hes talking about. I didnt read the rest because its three pages of really long posts, sorry, Im not in the mood at the moment. And hey, Gen. Sanchez, I liked the thing about the nursing homes and all that, LOL. And as for me, I think we should put all the liberals on massachusetts (The state tryin to legalize gay (like me) marriage) and put explosives on the border and blow em up, letting it float out to sea. We will of course get all the good people out of there first. Then we make a 50th state. Oh and after thats all done we go on about our business, which is bombing the island massachusetts.  .

 "If there was No war there wouldnt be any peace"

[siiix]

Odis

Your post is a classic; we should save it as example of current way of thinking of near-majority of the people that entitled to vote

BUT i had a better idea (then blowing up Massachusetts), give every U.S. citizen the right to vote again(at least temporary), then put it up for vote witch states are staying in the current fascist system and witch ones want democracy, freedom and peace

the simply separate the U.S. in to 2 countries
then for a period of 1 year give help to those people that like to move to the other country, then borders closed - passport required

so all the h0m0's, liberals, communist, hippies, socialist, party folk, pot smokers, libertarians, and generally anyone that like to live in a free, peaceful, true democratic country

(I’m guessing that country would be more north, and i would move there of course), we  could get the original flag (with updated stars),
And you guys can change the U.S. flag with one with the right amount of stats are little swastikas - like many of you just dieing to have ; )

guess where all the hate and suicide bombers will go ? haha, let me help not the north part of the country

[Dukelive]

Oh god. When I read the newspaper (New York Times) this morning, there was a picture of a few Iranians, one releasing a dove and the other two holding up vials of enriched Uranium. I couldn't stop laughing after I saw this, because it was just so hilarious.

Pic of the actual event:




Anyone else find this kind of ironic, scary and hilarious on the level that it's just not right?

[Odis]

 Splitting the country into north and south.... I dont want that, the reason I said what I did was because Im sick of the 2 faced liberals in this country... (example) this is what they say, "We dont want murder or killing, or war we just want peace!"... Hmmm...... They try to legalize abortion? Which is murder! It is killing another human being! The baby is alive, its heart is beating that second! Its murder! And I believe everyone who votes and does anything in their power to get abortion legal are murderers. The doctors are murderers too. thats just 1 single example of many... And the 2 face is just 1 of many... So I can go on forever. All you have to do is light the match...

[siiix]

They try to legalize abortion? Which is murder! It is killing another human being!

except is NOT a human being, its a bunch of human cells, MOST OF THOSE cells are not even real human cells YET they just unformed mass of stem cells
There non existent brain don’t even have any information stored yet

Is like killing a dead person witch is not even a person because it went trough a meat grinder - seriously you religious freaks are need some education

BUT let be point out that conservatives would be the same 2 faced if they so against abortion YET massacre 10000’s or probably a lot more innocent people because they soooo supposedly protect peace ; ) and give/force-on the survivors they VERSION of freedom that do not exist to anyone else on earth then the 51% voters in the U.S.

so we still at the point that they both 2 faced and wrong.

(again i'm NOT liberal/socialist)

re:
New York Times = i'm inerested in the article do you have a link, i want to the website but cant find it

[Odis]

 A human being is human being whether or not it has stored information in its brain. Some abortion is, cutting a baby out of a mothers belly, where it is unborn, and killing it. it has a body, it has a brain, just because it has not exited through the mother doesnt mean its not a human being...  .(next subject). Name a time conservatives massacred a mass of people. Conservatives or the army hasnt forced "our version" of freedom of anyone.. When we see a nation in distress we help them, such as "The War on Terror". We went in and protected the muslims and arabians and such from Sadam. When we caught Sadam, we held him here. But, the arabians and people from those countries over there get to decide his fate. Which Im glad they get after what they went through from him. They will probably hang him or something of the sort, which he deserves. They have their own presidents and such of there and their own government. We went in and freed them from his power, then let them handle everything else.

 By the way, Ive said nothing religous. But if you want to, I can probably fight better in religion than polotics.


 And I was looking at page 2 of this discussion, Gen. Sanchez was talking bout someone breaking into his house and he shot him, well I wouldve done the same. Bad attitude, someone posted after Sanchez said that... Well try breaking into my house, and then see my attitude...

[siiix]

When we see a nation in distress we help them, such as "The War on Terror". We went in and protected the muslims and arabians and such from Sadam. When we caught Sadam

And who will liberate us in distress in America ? the Canadians ? Or aliens ?

because if you think that every U.S. citizen is so happy like you then your delusional, there are million and millions in jails and work camps, there are millions terrorized by authorities, there are even huge part of the population that are discriminated for there chosen life style, the media is more strictly manipulated and censored then in the old east-block (and I did lived there for a while in the early 80’s)
We are not better then the country we "liberated" - just have more money

You really think LARGE % of the Iraqi population was not just perfectly fine how it was before the “liberation”? Sure there are people tortured and discriminated, millions where in horrible conditions
So are we doing the same on our level
The economical differences you can’t look at because those will be there "liberation" or not

we have the same discussing discriminating system then sadam had, the only difference is that we portend to be a democracy and we are on a high economical level ($) so the poor here are much better off then the poor in Iraq

a #1 pointer in a discriminative system is that if you go with the flow you have an good life, but if you not with the flow your in danger

about the abortion thing
I seriously think there should be 2 slightly different versions on laws
1 for religious people
2 for non religious

a ton of stuff/actions you believe one will go to hell for – other people are proud to do,
and if this continues how it is now this WAR between our people will escalate

you guys have to learn how to live together with others that do not share your believe system and never WANT TO

fetus:
it is a scientific fact that a person is only a person if the brain is activated, so with science its NOT a human being, its not more of a human then a tumor

then it would be murder to turn of the machines that keep someone alive once they brain dead

the soul how you guys call it is stored in the brain, no brain no soul – its that simple

BUT I admit morally it is a human being, as it will become one in the months to come, with that it is a SIN to kill it

here is the problem people like us don’t give a rats as about SIN and you can NOT force your (from our stand point) BS on to us

so create 2 sets of laws, you cant be religious (member of any organized religion) if you follow the one set meant for atheists, this means from your stand point those all go to hell

this would be the ONLY way of doing this FAIR
and this is what you people don’t know, the meaning of the word FAIR

[Dukelive]

I have to agree with siix on this one.


As much as I am pro-life, I'm pro-choice. That means that I believe that it's up to the woman who is pregnant whether they should get an abortion or not. What if the child is born and the mother cannot support it or get someone to adopt it? It would suffer greatly before dying of starvation due to inadiquate support offerable by the mother.

It's also a fact thet siix has, that the brain doesn't truly become active when the baby is born. Infact, it's also proven that until right around the age of 3, the child will not have a "will of its own" in the sense that it can make choices or even remember anything from those 3 first years later on. (that's also why that if a baby under the age of 3 by accidentally kills another baby its age or less, its not a punishable crime. Parents can't be punished for "misconducted raising" of the child or any such thing. If they are, they could sue the state).

But enough with this "Pro/Anti" abortion arguement. This is a "death to america" thread. If you wanna argue the points on arbotion, make a new thread.